Amaretto Asskissers
The Ass Kisser’s
Yea you know who they are, love them or hate them, they just can’t seem to keep their little grubby fingers off the keyboards when it comes to group chat. They are the ones the never have a problem with their horses, even if Amaretto themselves claims they are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. They often claim that their support tickets are taken care of in less then 2 hours, even though the rest of the community has waited days with no reply. They will be the first ones to bitch at a person for advertising in chat, and will bitch and moan about it for the next 30 minutes, going on and on about how they are muting the person and will never buy a horse from them, and of course they will be posting the group charter over and over again all the while. They will complain about the “complainers” for hours on end, often calling fellow customers of Amaretto names like “retard, idiot, assholes, cry babies, whiners, bullshitters,” and the list goes on. They will never admit they are wrong for any reason even if Amaretto CSR’s and the owners come into chat and clearly state they are wrong. Instead they will all put on the happy face and start praising the Amaretto staff and pretend they never said anything. When other customers start to copy and paste things they had just said they will get all flustered and claim they are filing AR’s with Linden Lab. The Ass Kisser, they are a strange breed, they lack any real opinion of their own, but only follow what their collective brain tells them.
Below is a list of the most well known Ass Kisser’s with a brief description of their habits in group chat. Beware of these people, as they lack the very basics of business ethics, as well as simple respect for fellow man.
Yea you know who they are, love them or hate them, they just can’t seem to keep their little grubby fingers off the keyboards when it comes to group chat. They are the ones the never have a problem with their horses, even if Amaretto themselves claims they are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. They often claim that their support tickets are taken care of in less then 2 hours, even though the rest of the community has waited days with no reply. They will be the first ones to bitch at a person for advertising in chat, and will bitch and moan about it for the next 30 minutes, going on and on about how they are muting the person and will never buy a horse from them, and of course they will be posting the group charter over and over again all the while. They will complain about the “complainers” for hours on end, often calling fellow customers of Amaretto names like “retard, idiot, assholes, cry babies, whiners, bullshitters,” and the list goes on. They will never admit they are wrong for any reason even if Amaretto CSR’s and the owners come into chat and clearly state they are wrong. Instead they will all put on the happy face and start praising the Amaretto staff and pretend they never said anything. When other customers start to copy and paste things they had just said they will get all flustered and claim they are filing AR’s with Linden Lab. The Ass Kisser, they are a strange breed, they lack any real opinion of their own, but only follow what their collective brain tells them.
Below is a list of the most well known Ass Kisser’s with a brief description of their habits in group chat. Beware of these people, as they lack the very basics of business ethics, as well as simple respect for fellow man.
Dani Chapman (dani.boccara)8/4/2005
Noah Chapman (noah.chapman)12/17/2006
These two are a husband and wife tag team. Never ever will they speak out against Amaretto. Never do they have a problem with their horses. They will often gang up together with other members of the Ass Kisser’s club to pick on people in chat. Often they seem to come into group chat after a conversation has been going on for some time, as if they were messaged to come partake in a good lynching of a fellow Amaretto customer.
Rider Afterthought (rider.afterthought)9/21/2010
This one here is just flat out nasty. One to avoid at all cost. She is a queen of drama, and is often found trolling the group chat. Recently though she lived up to her last name “Afterthought” when she spent over an hour in group chat claiming that Josaphine the owner of Amaretto was selling horses on the secondary market. Even after Dakota repeatedly told her no that Josaphine has never and would never sell horses on the secondary market she persisted on. She changed her tune by some sort of a “afterthought” when Josaphine herself came into chat and denied all accusations of selling on the secondary market. She then quietly slipped out of group chat and has been somewhat silent.
Noah Chapman (noah.chapman)12/17/2006
These two are a husband and wife tag team. Never ever will they speak out against Amaretto. Never do they have a problem with their horses. They will often gang up together with other members of the Ass Kisser’s club to pick on people in chat. Often they seem to come into group chat after a conversation has been going on for some time, as if they were messaged to come partake in a good lynching of a fellow Amaretto customer.
Rider Afterthought (rider.afterthought)9/21/2010
This one here is just flat out nasty. One to avoid at all cost. She is a queen of drama, and is often found trolling the group chat. Recently though she lived up to her last name “Afterthought” when she spent over an hour in group chat claiming that Josaphine the owner of Amaretto was selling horses on the secondary market. Even after Dakota repeatedly told her no that Josaphine has never and would never sell horses on the secondary market she persisted on. She changed her tune by some sort of a “afterthought” when Josaphine herself came into chat and denied all accusations of selling on the secondary market. She then quietly slipped out of group chat and has been somewhat silent.
KIA (kiana.foxley)11/15/2006
Kiana is the Queen of the Ass Kisser’s, she is found in group chat daily with the King of the Ass Kisser’s Newfie Shuffle. She makes Rider Afterthought look like a perfect angel when it comes to the nasty department. In one sentence she will help one person and completely degrade another. She sits on the theory that since she has been breeding horses since the first few weeks she knows everything and can not and will not be proven wrong. She looks down upon anyone who has not been breeding horses as long as her. When teamed up with Newfie they are relentless when they find a victim to pick on and will not stop even after the person has left chat all together.
Kiana is the Queen of the Ass Kisser’s, she is found in group chat daily with the King of the Ass Kisser’s Newfie Shuffle. She makes Rider Afterthought look like a perfect angel when it comes to the nasty department. In one sentence she will help one person and completely degrade another. She sits on the theory that since she has been breeding horses since the first few weeks she knows everything and can not and will not be proven wrong. She looks down upon anyone who has not been breeding horses as long as her. When teamed up with Newfie they are relentless when they find a victim to pick on and will not stop even after the person has left chat all together.
Leandra Kohnke (leandra.kohnke)10/16/2007
Once a very vocal supporter of Amaretto, Leandra recently discovered that Amaretto uses RedZone on their sims and has since cut her ass kissing time down in group chat. None the less she is still present in group chat from time to time and still thinks Amaretto can do no wrong. Such a quandary this must be for her as she spoke out so much about the use of Red Zone on sims so many times in group chat only to find her idols are in fact using it too. Poor Leandra, we all kinda miss her ramblings in chat as she was a great source of entertainment for many.
PHoeNiX Gorbain (xolani.galaxy)5/20/2009
Up until March 4th, Xolani was a staple ass kisser in the group chat. Never did she have a issue with Amaretto products, often telling people there was no problems at all. Should someone not agree with her she would tell them to just leave Amaretto horses. She was often found calling people names and disregarding anyone with a issue as just a mere complainer. That is till she adamantly stood by her accusations of buying horses from Josaphine, the owner of Amaretto on the secondary market, going as far as claiming she could not only provide the horses UUID but actual proof of the transaction. Ultimately she was removed from the group for her claims and was the direct cause of the removal of the Amaretto satellite store on the Pets sim. Just goes to show, should you kiss ass for to long one day you may just get shit on by the ass you kiss. She will not be missed as she was right up there on the nasty meter with Kiana and Rider.
Up until March 4th, Xolani was a staple ass kisser in the group chat. Never did she have a issue with Amaretto products, often telling people there was no problems at all. Should someone not agree with her she would tell them to just leave Amaretto horses. She was often found calling people names and disregarding anyone with a issue as just a mere complainer. That is till she adamantly stood by her accusations of buying horses from Josaphine, the owner of Amaretto on the secondary market, going as far as claiming she could not only provide the horses UUID but actual proof of the transaction. Ultimately she was removed from the group for her claims and was the direct cause of the removal of the Amaretto satellite store on the Pets sim. Just goes to show, should you kiss ass for to long one day you may just get shit on by the ass you kiss. She will not be missed as she was right up there on the nasty meter with Kiana and Rider.
Newfie Shuffle (newfie.shuffle)1/15/2010
The King of all Ass Kisser’s. When it comes to Amaretto and Newfie, Amaretto has never, is not, and will never do wrong. Newfie firmly believes there is not one single thing wrong with the current 2.0 update. He is in complete denial of the facts of certain bugs confirmed by Amaretto themselves, because it don’t happen to his horses. Should a person ask in group chat about a certain confirmed bug, Newfie will attack them with his “there is no problems” stance. He will then proceed to attack the person with name calling and telling them to just leave. Newfie is always outdoing everyone as well, no matter what you have Newfie has a better one, he don’t just have a one he has two better ones. As it has been said, Newfie and Kiana will team up on chastising and humiliating other Amaretto customers at every opportunity they can.
Kitty-Vamp (ptesanwi.shamen)8/25/2009
This one here is such an ass kisser that on both her birthday and her anniversary she decided that instead of logging off and having a good time she would stay in Amaretto group chat and call anyone that came in with a question concerning the 2.0 update a complainer and insist to them to just get rid of their horses and leave Amaretto. Now folks that’s dedication to kissing ass. You can’t miss her in group chat she is the one with the incredibly annoying double and triple spaces between her words when she types.
Damien Ember (damien.ember)10/27/2007
Here is a man that’s no stranger to ass kissing, in many ways. Long before Amaretto, Damien was polishing his nose in Ozimals chat. He can often be found in the early morning hours group chat claiming his profound love for Amaretto. Damien is very much like Newfie in the fact he always has something better then the next person, and loves to show it off. Damien loves to chime into group chat when it gets on the topic of “market crashing”, he will claim he just sold something for some exorbitant amount that could just not be possible unless he just scammed some one new out of their lindens.
amarettocheats 
You are pretty brave mouthing off like a pussy behind a website.
I can only wish that I was there to see the look on your face when Linden Lab bans your faggot ass from Second Life for breaching there Terms of Service.
And agreement that you signed when you signed up for the site., And in the event that they force wordpress to shut your stupid whiney webblog down and ban you from ever owning another one.
Why dont you go do something with your life you loser!!!!!!!!!!
March 6, 2011 at 9:30 pm
@ Bite me (AKA) Marine Fiend (marinefiend.redinamus) You will have your spot on the list to. Have no fear some of us like to catch a little sleep. You happen to be a few away when the sleepys set in. Either way thank you for your reply.
March 6, 2011 at 9:59 pm
I would like to take a moment to Thank the Academy for the title bestowed upon me as King of Amaretto Ass Kissers I applaud you all for this distinguished honor that has been bestowed upon me.
In saying that I am saddened that the person or persons writing this blog cannot be Man or Women enough to place their name on such an article
I gues sthat speaks volumes in that this person or person loves to stir the pot in that they are not Man or Women enough to stand behind the words which they write
Its a Shame really when you think about it
Your King Ass Kisser
Newfie Shuffle
March 6, 2011 at 9:50 pm
@ Newfie. You are welcome. We are glad that we could brighten your day. As you said in chat that you are having a crown made, we would think that there is no mega prim big enough in SL that will hold you over inflated ego contained. Till later little man, enjoy your 15 minutes of fame.
March 6, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Newfie i here challenge u for ur title! I wanna be blogged about too dayum it! ROFLMAO! Seriously dude or dudette u have wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much time on ur hands to put this much research into sl shit!
May 17, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Day late, dollar short, Tiff.
I love how people (not just you) criticize the Amarettocheat’s “dude or dudette” as opposed to the content. Hilarious.
May 18, 2011 at 9:02 am
Well I would like to thank you for getting my story half right. I haven;t been around as much as I was on Amaretto because I have been a hyperactive greenie and there is only so much of me to go around.Next time you could ask me my story. Oh I guess that would require fact checking. Sorry I shouldn’t have mentioned it. I am wondering if you used zRedZone to figure out all the alts of the CSR though. That would be about as accurate as anything else on this page.
Betcha you won’t dare print this.
March 6, 2011 at 10:20 pm
@ Leandra. We didn’t approach you for your side of the story cause this part of our website is strictly opinionbased hence why it is not located on our front page that is only for factual stories. As far as Red Zone goes, you do understand that detects alts from around a linked grid of Red Zone users correct? Of course we have used Red Zone at one time, we also gain our facts from direct conversations with the very people we accuse of any wrong doing as well as their ALT’s. Thank you for your comments. See we did post it for all to see.
March 7, 2011 at 12:01 am
Well you are just an outright liar now. I have no contact of any kind with Champion. I never said I have any contact with Champion. I have absolutely NO IDEA where you got that from. SO are so full of lies and garbage it’s astonishing. What do you, just sit all day and MAKE up stuff?
March 7, 2011 at 3:36 pm
@ Leandra. Ok even we can admit when we are wrong. You are correct, you did not say you were over in the Champion group. You didn’t actually name a group in your comment and we confused it with you meaning the Champion group. However we now know you were talking about the Greenzone group. We have removed our comment about that now and we apologize for the confusion. Please do change your tin foil hat though regularly while in that group. They do loose their effectiveness after continued use.
March 8, 2011 at 12:51 am
Well I am soo glad that my replies are of something that you enjoy.
I however will be one of the people that will file a complaint against you and your blog for using my name without my permission.
Thanks for being so enlighteningly pathetic with your over bearing and completely useless blog.
To bad that most of us that read it in the first place actually thought you had something to say.
Now I can officially say that you have taken you SL life over the edge.
You have no clue who I am and have absolutly no right to post anything about me. So why dont you just FUCK OFF!!!!
March 6, 2011 at 10:39 pm
@ Marine. First off you really do need to do a little brushing up on the Linden TOS. Second as we said below to Leandra this is the opinion section of our blog. Our factual section is the front page. To say you have read our blog and thought we had something to say, we would assume that you at the very least though some if not all was correct information. To us that means you, yourself question the ethics of Amaretto and their business practices. As for who you are, well we don’t care. But clearly you have shown to all that look at these post you wrote who you are. Again thank you for your comments.
March 7, 2011 at 12:11 am
The chicken that posted this crap needs to get a life. There are plenty of us that have never had a problem with our horses and we all post in chat that we don’t, and the fact that we are sick of listening to how bad you all think amaretto is but yet you still breed and sell horses. Makes you look like complete morons.
March 6, 2011 at 11:22 pm
@ Ocean, seems you are upset that you didn’t make the list. Should we make a Amaretto group chat trolls list you will have your spot. However with this post you made here it sure does sound like you want to be on the Ass Kisser’s list. Thank you for your comment.
March 7, 2011 at 12:19 am
Rider Afterthought is no ass kisser for Amaretto. She was only in group chat to have fun and help. Seems you complain more about amaretto. Also the statement of Josaphine selling horses is true, afew ppl know and funny to think why would they retract their shop from the pet sim where it all happened. Can you explain that to the good people of amaretto or just bitch and cry. Rider has left the horses like many will thats why she has been quiet you dickhead.
March 7, 2011 at 12:12 am
@Mr X, should we make a past Ass Kissers section for her then? Yes we know she sold all her horses for $100L after she was muted by Josaphine. So she leaves the group only to come back and stir the pot now. Good for her actually, now she sees how so very important she was to Amaretto just like all the rest of us. We are all just one click away from loosing our horses are we not? We never claimed that Josaphine was selling horses on the secondary market, it was some of the very people posted in this blog that did that. However we would gladly post any documented proof of any transactions of people buying horses from Josaphine on the secondary market. Somehow even we don’t believe there is any proof of it in existence. See that’s the point here, we are calling bullshit on all the ass kissers with there ridiculous claims of never having a problem all the way up to they have been buying horses from Josaphine. They were so blinded by the love and devotion towards Amaretto they didn’t even realise that claiming they were purchasing horses from Josaphine would ultimately get them on the wrong side of the ass they so love to kiss.
March 7, 2011 at 4:06 am
Kade Zuta is really Richie Carami. Yes the very same Richie Carami that is a CSR for Amaretto, and partnered to Jaymee Caproni also a CSR for Amaretto. Jaymee Caproni is also the real life sister to Josaphine Cooperstone. Should you be able to bring up Jaymee Caproni’s list of known Alts you will get these names, JJ Cerna, Josaphine Cooperstone, Jaysin Cooperstone, Ancient Biscuit, Kaye Koolhoven, Richie Carami. The mystery horse is really owned by Jaymee Caproni. Whoaaaaa slow down what? Yes go back and read it over… Got it now? See that connection? Wait there is more. Kade Zuta logged into Second Life while the server was taken down to make the final corrections and went to his sales yard on Josaphine Cooperstone’s breedable market sim. ” what is this? you have the proof, in fact, hello Richie
(taken from your first blog post)
Rider doesnt start crap she either trys to distract or end it, but then you only see what you want to see, give my reguards to your sister
March 7, 2011 at 4:33 am
@Mr X, ok Caspian we are not really sure what you are saying here. It would seem you are insinuating that amarettocheats is made by Richie. Please do elaborate on what you are saying with this post as it is very confusing. Caspian even you know that Richie is not a owner of Amaretto. So the quote you made really makes no sens to this whole chain of events in this section of the blog.
March 7, 2011 at 5:25 am
Ok, it’s no secret I can’t stand Amaretto, simply because I think they treat their customers like garbage and because I believe everything on the main page of this website is true. I have spoken to some very credible witnesses, so nothing that Amaretto does will ever change my mind about them (not every team member but most of them).
As for the this Asskisser’s List: Although I agree we do have some serious cheerleading going on in the group chat (to the point where it’s absolutely disgusting sometimes) I really wish that the writers of the Amaretto Cheats Blog would consider removing it.
I know it’s a matter of opinion on some of the “offenders” on the list and I know we have the right to freedom of speech, but I think this page undermines the actual fact page, so people that aren’t following the entire story of Amaretto and their more than questionable ethics, will see this page and think that the creators of Amaretto Cheats aren’t as credible, so if they engage in such behavior as to slam people personally then really it’s not about bringing the truth to light anymore. It seems more about being mean and personally attacking people. Not saying this was the intention behind the page, only the writer knows that, it’s just what it seems to appear.
Many of the statements above can be perceived as correct (I watch the chat a lot and engage in conversations on many occasions myself) but some of the stuff said about some of the people up there simply isn’t true. If you talk to these people on an individual basis, outside the walls of the chat group, many of them have concerns about Amaretto themselves. I just think it’s a bit ugly to call everyone out like this. Just my opinion, yanno. It was just a bit disappointing to see this page on here. I’d expect this kind of stuff from an Amaretto Team member, not an Amaretto Cheat writer. Let’s refocus our frustration on the “real” bad guys.
Thanks for reading.
Spyder
March 7, 2011 at 5:50 am
@ Spyder. The list was made to shed light on a situation that continued on inside the Amaretto group chat for far to long. For both Amaretto and all their customers to allow the continued attacks from these people to carry on is ridiculous. We will admit that everyone named in the list has spent countless total hours attempting to help members of the horse breeding community, however their constant attacks on people that do not agree with them only makes them look like the bullies in chat, and totally dismisses their helpful attempts. They often have made some very over the top personal attacks towards people in chat. This time it is us that gives them a taste of their own medicine in a forum where we wont be thrown out of group chat by a Amaretto MOD for our right to stand up for ourselves, while Amaretto continues to allow them to carry on with their antics without so much as a warning. As you can see in these very responses here on the blog nothing has changed, they still carry on. As far as talking to these people on a individual basis and them having concerns about Amaretto. Well then maybe they should actually share them concerns with the rest of us in group chat and stand with the majority of the horse breeding community with said concerns instead of dismissing the people as just mere complainers and whiners, and telling them to just leave. Every single one of us that is a customer of Amaretto have been affected by things Amaretto implements, and whether we have had a particular issue or not we should all be standing together for what is right and fair. We here are even now guilty of for attacking other members of the horse breeding community, however it is now in response to show them it is unacceptable behavior, hurtful, and drums up some very emotional responses. These people have done far worse to other members of the community then we have here, but now they can at the very least feel what they have done to so many and hopefully realize what they do hurts people not helps them.
March 8, 2011 at 2:30 pm
all i can say about all of this is i love it when the shit hits the fan
March 7, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Oh and I suggest you look at the failure of zRedZone’s little toy before you draw any conclusions about it. And while you are at it you better check the SL Terms of Service about disclosing alts.
March 7, 2011 at 3:38 pm
@ Leandra. We would hardly call Red Zone a failure, nor a toy. What exactly would we be looking for in the Linden Lab TOS? We know we would not find anything pertaining to the disclosure of alt’s. Now if you mean we should look into the Community Standards that was recently changed, to say this….
“Residents are entitled to a reasonable level of privacy with regard to their Second Life experience. Sharing personal information about your fellow Residents without their consent — including gender, religion, age, marital status, race, sexual preference, alternate account names, and real-world location beyond what is provided by them in their Resident profile — is not allowed. Remotely monitoring conversations in Second Life, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without the participants’ consent are all prohibited”
Well then let me explain, first not one single avatar in SL right now agreed to that change in the wording. Second it is not the TOS, it is a Community Standards section. Yes when we agree to the TOS we all need to agree that we will read and comply with the CS, however since we never agreed to the change in wording it becomes a moot point. Furthermore we are not on Linden Lab servers here and are not bound by their TOS in any way shape or form.
March 8, 2011 at 1:08 am
Let’s repeat that. I don’t now, I never have, and I don’t plan on anytime in future in getting involved with Champion. I certainly never said that in the group today. All I can say is you folks are liars. Outright liars.
March 7, 2011 at 3:42 pm
@ Leandra. Yes we know and have corrected it. But thanks for telling us again.
March 8, 2011 at 1:09 am
And for the record I also think you are cowardly PoS for not telling anyone who you are. Liars and cowards. It’s so easy to tell lies and slander people calling it opinion when you hide behind this blog and pretend you are clever.
March 7, 2011 at 4:08 pm
@Leandra. No need to abbreviate it Leandra, just calls us a piece of shit. Really its OK we wont tell mom. As we have said before it isn’t “slander” it is called “libel”. As for who we are, you can find that answer here.
BTW, thank you for 4 post in 32 minutes. You rock!
March 8, 2011 at 1:14 am
lol Richie is behind amarettocheats? LOL!
I could actualy believe that 🙂
March 7, 2011 at 10:36 pm
He’s not that quick.
April 9, 2011 at 7:30 am
I honestly do not care what you feel you have to post about me, in saying what I have to say..In many of your post you mention the words not sleeping,I wonder if you yourself get much sleep, as you seem to be watching the Ameretto group chat at all different hours of the day and night,So think HONESTLY WHO ISNT SLEEPING…also I think that it is very unethical of you to be posting peoples names ,in rl that is called SLANDER!!!if you wish to write about a particular person or persons, the best way is to make up a name. if then, they think it is them, then that is there problem, but you SHOULD NOT BE POSTING NAMES,specially considering you cant even be man or women enough to show whom you are have a nice day and night as I know you will be watching the GROUP CHAT
March 8, 2011 at 12:06 am
@ shayla. We sleep very well, thank you though. Actually its not “slander” its called libel. The names we have posted on this entire blog are in fact fictional names, every last one of them. We have and never will post a avatars real life name anywhere in our blog, unless we post actual real court documents that contain real names with in them. Now as far as us not posting who we are, please read here.
March 8, 2011 at 12:34 am
OK there are some mean ass people in chat.. I mean really mean and ruthless. I don’t know why they haven’t been ejected yet. It’s probably because they are not going against Amaretto, just the customers. It’s bullsh*t man. And I know people are monitoring it because the CSR’s are in chat as well.
March 8, 2011 at 1:56 am
@ Spyder. Yes you are correct. Amazing that KIA (kiana) after a couple days now of apologizing to people for saying things that may upset people, she is now back in chat calling people “Tards” yes that is a short slang for being “retarded” yet Amaretto MOD’s allow her to continue on.
March 8, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Well, I thank you for posting my message. And I hope you accomplish what you’re trying to accomplish. I hope people keep the bad stuff out of chat because I am not ready to be banned from it yet.. I want to do it on my own terms, but some things really set me off sometimes and I feel it coming.. joining the ranks of the banned Amaretto Group Members. We don’t need to attack each other in there.. we should work together to get Amaretto to listen. However you look it at, love Amaretto, hate Amaretto.. we all just want a good product and to be treated with respect.
Have a great night all 🙂
Spy
March 8, 2011 at 3:50 pm
I cannot stop laughing, this is pure brilliance and i love it!
What i dont understand is why suck up Amaretto’s ass so badly? what do they expect to gain? And Amaretto are in it for the money, they dont give two shits about any customer, not unless its bad blood for the buisness as a whole.
Good on ya amarettocheats 😀
March 16, 2011 at 6:23 am
I finally peeked at this site and although I don’t know what to believe or think on a lot of it I do know I really think this part mean spirited and unnecessary.
Being upset and speaking your mind against a company that may or may not be doing something amiss is one thing, singling out people and writing nasty stuff is another entirely.
I like my horses, yeah there are problems but SL is a quirky thing. I can’t make anything remotely similar so I really enjoy them. If this makes me a butt kisser too, so be it. I just really think for someone who says the above people are nasty or drama llamas posting things like this lowers you to that level as well.
March 16, 2011 at 8:49 am
When you are robbed, you suffer a real loss, when you are bullied it has a real effect on you. I saw bullying and unprofessional behavior in group by this ‘company’ but I choose to ignore it, even if I felt bullied. I had invested thousands of US dollars in Amaretto products. When they changed the sculpts and textures I expressed their ‘surprise’ was not a good one and I didn’t like the new ones better. That day I was made the target of their wrath and all my horses taken. I was banned and muted. Amaretto uses RedLine to make sure my alts, IP, any account I log on are banned and horse become duplicates. Amaretto TOS pretty much says they can do what they want, what about them breaking SL TOS rules? Doesn’t the list here show who they continue to support and who they punish? They have proven to me that they go beyond the chat bullying, playing victim and cheating. I personally saw they are adept at inflicting real and emotional pain by the comments owners personally made to me.
We need this site, trust me, ‘pinky swear’ we do. Users are at their mercy and at least you all reading this have had your warning. The ‘See me and fear me, I am so powerful.’ face of Amaretto has show they clearly feel they can do anything they want without having to pay any consequences. Their TOS says you will pay and not them very clearly and you agree when you use their products. If we exhibit a ‘defeated attitude’ in response to chronic bullying and unfair treatment or igore or as ass kissers do, enable it, the bullying is going to worsen. If we stand alone we are an easy target. I see they have a strong need to control, manipulate, bully, use and dominate. Bullies may bully because they themselves have been the victim of bullying and play the ‘victim’, and that needs to be pointed out too as not normal business behavior. This needs to be challenged and hopefully some may avoid being hurt. I hope everyone who has suffered a loss from their unfair, unprofessional behavior will speak out.
March 18, 2011 at 5:06 am
WHAT THE FUCK Is Wrong with Amaretto??
There are lot of things that show that there IS something really fucking wrong with Amaretto. If you think you can continue making a profit with crazy people in control of you, it’s a risky business.
•They use RED ZONE to track your IP, for WTF reason? You have no choice when you go to buy products to be subject to them using this information against you whenever they feel like it.
•They close the group chat regularly if they hear something they don’t want to hear and the group is not open for everyone to join.
•They want to shut everyone up. This site has shown quotes of them being rude and they don’t dispute it. They are rude in group and in ticket responses.
•Their business motto is “Amaretto is always Right, our customers are always Wrong.” No one should ever question the Powerful Amaretto. “You must not fuck with us, we will ban you, and fuck you up, mother fuckas ” is their business attitude. EVERYONE is trying to fuck with them. Their customer connection is just a blog and advertisement. They ignore polls and customer feedback yet say ‘the customers have spoken’ like our prayers went up to The Gods and were heard, but only the ones they were going to make more money on anyway.
•They are full of lies and deception. They said they will never make horses and sell in the market themselves , but it is total BS. MySLHorses.com already proven that they made and sell horses. They were never hacked by an outsider. The owners IP sells horses. Rare horses, expensive horses, ones that bring the highest prices.
•Over 57% of the people do not like the new 2.0 update by poll. There is NO option to keep the horses you originally bought. Most of the people already quit because of this. Even famous auctioneers with horse auctions daily quit. 70% of my friends on my friend list do not have horses anymore. Not only that, They also banned many of people for no reason or with stupid reason such as twin bundles were given the same auto response for ‘exploits’. Twins was a glitch that is well known and they never respond to and suddenly they go around banning people for it.
•My guessing is 50% of the 57% people who hate the 2.0 quit horses, MIN of another 20% of the people got banned by Amarato from last year’s customers. How much people are left that still have horses? What does it tell you?
March 19, 2011 at 1:04 am
that’s why the main amaretto group went from 4000 to almost 7000 after the 2.0 came out.
March 26, 2011 at 9:59 pm
@ greg, since we follow this sort of thing. The group was just about to hit 6000 members before the update, it was at 5896 when 2.0 came out. Then it went down to 5354 in the next two weeks. The group actually lost slightly over 500 members after the 2.0 update. It then started to slowly rise after that. In the last week there has been some kinda surge in the group number of just slightly over 400 members to a now all time high of 6085. However there is 1473 of them avatars that have not logged in to SL in the last 30 days. There is just over 600 avatars that have not logged in to SL in the last 90 days. So greg, firrst off the group is nowhere near 7000 members, second that were almost at 6000 members when 2.0 was released, third that shows a huge negetive impact that the 2.0 version really did have on the horses, and fourth, if you are going to come here spewing numbers, please get them right!!!
BTW … many people have many Alts in the group for multiple reasons. We alone have a total of 57 alts in the Amaretto main group chat. You know just incase some get banned 🙂
March 26, 2011 at 11:37 pm
This is my true story. I got banned from Amaretto and they did not explain or tell me a reason. They have a pre-written auto respond of “exploiting the horses” and I have to ‘prove my innocence’. I was AFK. When I came back, all my horses are gone, I was thinking, may be I was late on my rent and my stuff got sent back? But no. I check my inventory, there’s nothing. Re-log and clear cashe , NOTHING. I drop my horse that I was riding and it became a duplicate horse. I realize there is something wrong. I messaged one of the workers from Amaretto and I was told to message Jaysin Coooperstone. I tried to file a ticket, but my ticket got removed RIGHT AWAY. They muted me in game and disabled my ticket account. I am compltely cut off from any contact to Amaretto.
I never got any Charm, rare or Albino horse. How the fuck I am “exploiting the horses”? I only spend really little time on the horses. I didn’t even join their Amaretto main group, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? I got my horses STOLEN for no reason and they did not give me an answer, nothing. They can do whatever they want and they own all my horses and your horses. They can come and delete your horses anytime, anywhere and whenever they want. They don’t even have to give a reason.
YOU PAID FOR THEM BUT YOU DON’T OWN THEM!
March 19, 2011 at 8:55 pm
‘Somehow even we don’t believe there is any proof of it in existence.’
I think you can find some proof of what horses are sold by their IP. I would like to see this tracked. Many of my horses Amaretto had taken ownership by script and made the property of the owners became corrupted items. Are they are still in world being used? Have they been resold? A player told me today she noticed some horses for sale at auction were found to be corrupted items. Interesting. If I have proof of how to track this I will not give that information out here because it would be like telling the burglar they left a trail of crumbs…
March 20, 2011 at 3:57 am
The bigger they are, the harder they fall. Thanks for keepin’ it real….
March 23, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Oh..want to react on red zone.
Red zone a toy? Not complying to TOS?
Right
So…. we can safely asume then that Amaretto had no right to delete the horses of people “of wich they asume”they are alts of people that “they think”they exploited.
The alts; they are so easy to track. Just click on Jaimee’s and Richies groups..follow one and an other. Lately , especually Richie has hidden a lot of groups..guess he got scared for even more people seeing what he is doi ng, and that “we”are NOT making stories up.
also, something funny; look up his alt “kade zuta”at google…:) Noooo they never sold under alts..lol
why I know 100% sure that its his alt?
because Avalon also had a Zuta alt, as child of Kade!(info; red zone;)
March 25, 2011 at 7:44 am
Well ladies and gentlemen, Amaretto has struck again. Our very own Sylvanna Torres has been banned from chat and forums for alleged abusive behavior.
Amaretto alleges that there were several complaints against Sylvanna from yesterday’s group and chat and on the forums. I find this so ironic since I just happen to be watching chat on many occasions which Sylvanna was posting at the time and at no time did I see Sylvanna say one thing that can be even misunderstood as abusive. Abusive to who? Seriously? Meanwhile, there were other “customers” being extremely rude and attacking other customers.
It’s so funny when I see a CSR clearly posting in chat while this is going on and nothing happens to other person. The only thing that will get you banned from the Amaretto Forums and Chat Group is if you say something bad about Amaretto, plain and simple.
Unfortunately, they finally got Sylvanna. What will be next I wonder? Will her horses be gone too? This they are doing to try and censor the people that will bring to light they’re short comings and unethical practices. I wonder if they will ban me from chat too and the forums for this post. The only abusive ones are the Amaretto Cheerleaders and the Amaretto Staff themselves. I wouldn’t be surprised if I log in one day and my horses are gone too, because that’s how these people roll. Playing god in SL. I hope Ozimals gets them too. Ozimals should have came out with the horses. Not saying Ozimals is perfect by any means but at least I can say Ozimals is a business. Amaretto on the other hand are a bunch of hoodlums with a little too much cash in their pockets that found a scriptor and sculptor to make them some horses. And to think I actually thought they were doing a better job of trying to keep connected with their customers lol. In all seriousness though, what makes me the most angry is that these people have no heart, they put people like Sylv and the people that horses were deleted without justification through undue emotional stress. But I like to think the world does it’s turns and Karma will get you in the end.
March 26, 2011 at 3:45 am
ROTFLMAO! *Freedom of Speech* Breedables the new group. Membership 3. A group, created initially to gather again and talk, since Amaretto started to cencorise chat.
ALso to share info, for those who not receive it.
This group is to talk about all and anything. No spamming, please. Keep things polite and nice.
No Amaretto CSR’s allowed!
Any of what is discussd here is to stay inside the membergroup. Sharing anything with people outside the group is concidered as violating TOS.”
Membership 3, Membership Amaretto Breedable 6087
Have fun with that. By the way there is no such word as “cencorise” and “concidered” is actually spelled “considered”.
March 27, 2011 at 9:05 am
@ Leandra, That group is formed by Sylvana Torres. Sylvana has no affiliation with this website, other then being a poster to comments just like you. Now for your spelling corrections you made. Sylvana is not a native English speaker, hence her misspelled words. But thank you for telling us she formed a group. Remember Amaretto made the changes to the group chat not only for people that talk negative about Amaretto but for the people like you that talk negative about its customers.
March 27, 2011 at 11:54 am
Well at least there’s a place where we can speak freely without fear of retaliation on behalf on Amaretto. We’ll see if they try and use things from this website and from the other group to continue to persecute the people that are not blinded by shiny new objects and empty promises.
And there is something called “tolerance” that I think a lot of people need a good lesson on. English isn’t the primary language for EVERYONE unlike what most of us would like to believe. Sylvanna expresses herself just fine and I hope she doesn’t take to heart the ignorant comments of such closed minded people. If SL were primarily Dutch or German, I’d like to see how us primarily English speakers would carry on in there.
AND FYI… that group is not affiliated with this website.. although I am sure the creators of it would be more than welcomed.
March 27, 2011 at 12:30 pm
@ Spyder, we will be in the group eventually 🙂
March 27, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Leandra,
I wont bother commenting on the fact that you critisise my english. I am sure you would write perfect dutch.
Must say, the fac t that you thought I ment “concidered”does make me wonder about your own english, as that wouldnt make sense.
But ok, lets not get so low in writing as you so, obviously.
Oh..and 11 members now.But we dont do quantity! We go for quality (maybe look those words up in the dictionairy)
Syl
March 27, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Seems Amaretto has already been busy doing some housekeeping on their forum. Many of the more entertaining posts have vanished. Bummer.
Ya gotta give ’em this, though, folks:
Their follow-through on their crack-down may be the first promise they have actually kept. BAHAHAHA. I would not expect this to become a trend….
March 28, 2011 at 1:04 pm
***Their follow-through on their crack-down may be the first promise they have actually kept. BAHAHAHA. I would not expect this to become a trend….****
Well Kim they gotta start somewhere! lol. Bravo Amaretto.. give credit where credit is due 😛
March 29, 2011 at 1:22 am
Spyder – that was me giving them credit…with a very sarcastic and cynical slant. 😉
March 29, 2011 at 8:57 am
omg..have you seen what been written at the forum? “the critial people are silence, guess they like what been added now
Dont these people have any clue then? That you cant haven any critics, since it will get you kicked?
And so sad.. people asking questions about genetics.. which was all explained in my topic about this.
March 30, 2011 at 3:27 am
@Sylv, Yes we have seen the forums and what has been written and promptly removed. Seems now if you are not bowing down and praising your ever devotion towards Amaretto, then your post will be removed. They are some seriously sick twisted people.
March 30, 2011 at 10:46 am
They are clueless.. ignorance is bliss though.
March 30, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Yes, Spider, I know
*waves at Richie.. glad you finally could press the “kick out button”?*
And Kim, you made me laugh…yes. Indeed. they finally do what they promised. It does make me wonder.. freedom of speech.. why would anyone violate that?
Is this to ensure Josaphine will get her title?
Well.. mhmm… *smiles*
A shame everything I write will and might be used against me.
One thing..
They may think they broke me. Made me sad (yes..I am still very sad about all this). That they took away my fun in breeding (sadly enough, yes. Even the money I made with my white clydes and gonna make with my silver shetland male fizz doesnt make me happy..).
But thats all fine. When one crosses the line of creating so much hurt and frustration, its time to get out.
So JAY, amaretto! Syl will, within a month or so, stop with breeding. More or less.
But.
In the past, I had a high level international management role in a huge international company. Yes…some hated me..for my being straight forward. But; always got respect. As I kept myself to facts, and always stayed polite.
Also, I had the reputation of never letting go, and fight till the end.
Pitbull mentality.
I will never be silence.. you might think I am… but my mind will always go on…and think… and plan… and then…I smile.
You made me stronger then every, Amaretto. Thank you.
*winks*
With love
Syl
March 29, 2011 at 4:08 am
Guess I missed what was written on the forum, which saddens me. The forum and group chat were always sure to provide more than an ample dose of humor on a daily basis. As my supply has been cut-off, I am preparing for withdrawal. Thank God I have amarettocheats!
I can only summarize Amaretto’s new policy in this way: In RL, we have such a thing as Military Occupation. In SL, welcome to the New World Order of Amaretto Occupation.
Hey, at least they likely mounties….;-)
March 30, 2011 at 11:28 am
See freedomofspeechbreedables.com
(working on it)
And no, amarettocheats, no competition for your site, ofcourse! You been placed as 1st link there:)
March 31, 2011 at 4:09 am
What I love the most is that some dude posted something obviously meant to be aggressive towards myself and another Amaretto customer on the forum.. I responded to it, and Ms Cooperstone herself decided to chime in and lock the forum out, of course AFTER deleting my comment of course and leaving the comment of this individual calling us whiners. Smooth.. real smooth lol. Real inconspicuous guys!
So once again it’s proven, if they don’t like what you have to say, all they do is delete you.. making the view for the customers very one sided… just like they like it. And of course, the guys negative comment towards us including screenshots of making the other customer a foe was NOT deleted… 🙂
March 31, 2011 at 11:19 am
First thing I thought was no way BOSL would do something like that. But maybe they are simply unaware of her practices and issues.
I know there are crap loads of people who play with horses that read and have input into the magazine so I am not so sure how this is even happening.
@Banned.. good for you filing an AR. I don’t know anything about the law and I don’t know what would constitute for a law suit in this case. I mean monetary value etc. Now for tax evasion… I would think they’d have enough sense to at least report the proceeds. You have to don’t you? I dunno. I mean they did have some suit going on with ozimals for stolen ideas or something.. i don’t know what turned out with all of that though. Time will tell.
April 1, 2011 at 2:35 pm
I believe the Ozimals thing stems from the fact that both Jaymee and Josaphine were in closed beta for Ozimals. See thread below. Alpha by first name.
http://forums.ozimals.com/showthread.php?tid=917
Just something I happened upon today ironically enough.
April 1, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Anyone else noticed that Charmed Pegacorns are ten a penny now? What have Amaretto done that’s made them so common?
It used to be a rare event to see someone post up stats, but now I see them posted several times per day
April 1, 2011 at 10:01 pm
This may be way off into left field here, but has anyone ever considered that the owner of BOSL is also an Amaretto breeder? Possibly on an alt? With the sheer amount of breeders in SL, that wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. I’ll let you draw your own conclusions about the legitimacy (or lack thereof) of Josaphine’s nomination.
Also, I think the Asskissers list is a great idea. Another possible idea is to create a subsection of that person’s chatlogs from group chat so people can really see for themselves what has been said and won’t just think Amarettocheats is being unfair and telling half-truths. Screenshots may also work as well. However, knowing the combined IQ of 90% of humanity, they’ll probably still claim it as false.
Just my two cents.
April 10, 2011 at 9:55 am
lol you people sit in here and malign everyone you can think of yes my facts are facts in my opinion but then like your opinion mine is the only one that matters. I have problems with all
breedables as they cause nothing but grief and heartache for anyone who is doing it in a small way.The big breeders only get the heartache and start their bitching when there are downturns in their income.Everyone mentions how much they paid for food etc,but no1 mentions the days when they made 10 20 30000 in one day. So there are millionaires in second life? so what,they are just people who found a way to use the GAME to their own advantage. If it’s on a computer and it can be turned off it’s a game ,,,,,,,,,,,unless of course it’s a multimedia business?
May 16, 2011 at 6:11 am
I have to take my hat off to you for this website and for the things you say, I have felt for a long time that there is something deeply wrong with the amaretto business plan and the way it handles customer interactions, and our friend Richie proved me right last night. Amaretto had a glitch in their server yet again, and this time it caused the text on bundles born within a certain period to show that the horse was a charmed species that isn’t as of yet obtainable. We joked about it in group and had some light hearted fun on the topic and generally everyone was getting along aside from the few martyrs that are always present, who came down off their crosses to beg and plead that we not speak ill of amaretto because it was just a small glitch. Richie then showed up, and things became tense as they tend to when he strolls in and begins demanding that people stop discussing certain topics by using thinly vieled threats and patting the normal martyrs on the head so they would unleash on those of us who refuse to quiet down when he takes this tactic. Jaymee or however yous spell her name, excuse me if i have it wrong as it’s very early and there isnt enough coffee in the world brewed yet, Im’d me personally to laugh at me when I made a comment that was very light and sincere about how after having a glitch of that magnitude that has upset people, they should be kind and take an easier approach to customer care because of the new breedable on the market sinking their boat faster than ever. She laughed at me and waved goodbye, and I was then spam muted. When you are muted, simply closing the chat and re-opening it rectifies this situation and you can then let folks know you’re muted, someone however decided to sit and continually mute me in the group for 15 minutes before Richie “politely” told me to shut up before I was banned. At this point I had just shelled out 5k in land rentals to house my horses and not made anything back and rent was due again, and I made the decision to pick my horses up and throw them in my trash bin. I IM’d Richie to let him know he had lost a customer and that I would be advising everyone who was muted that evening to contact the better business services, considering Amaretto is an LLC, they are able to have complaints lodged against them and investigations placed on your behalf through such a service. He continually took a smug attitude with me until I finally told him to blow his attitude out his.. adult phrase for a rectum, at which point he informed me I was being filed against for harassement and was no longer welcome. I have had nothing but terrible CSR experiences with Amaretto since I made the un-wise decision to spend the 7k to buy in and then buy all of the large packs of products available so I could enjoy a fun ranching past time with my boyfriend in the evenings for us to unwind with after work. I have been called names, and if the staff don’t feel comfortable calling me names, they play favorites and egg on people in the group until they start doing it for the staff. I have never had this experience with a company before that didn’t end in a BBB investigation being filed, and I don’t understand why more people aren’t responding in a similar manor with this horrible company. The Meeroo company has just barely started and have had a few issues so far, and the chat for meeroo support is like night and day compared to the chat for Amaretto. The CSR individuals are kind, humble, and understand that we are paying their company money in return for a service, and I have been pleasantly suprised to have several of the creators or scripting staff join in on the chats and laugh with us, so I don’t understand where the cruelty and bitter customer service attitude that amaretto seems to be famous for comes from. But my hat is off to you, and I think you should ignore the martyr’s comming down off their crosses to point at you and call you names, I enjoy the fact that this site exists and I love what it stands for.
June 20, 2011 at 9:23 am
I’m quite sure the people who kiss their ass and/or click sexballs with the staff or their alts get a little “help”…in the form of “recreating” some good bundle drops.
And i think something you’ve spent L$ (= irl USD) should not be allowed to just be taken away from you aspecialy when those items are not refunded back to you in Linden Dollars…
Since linden dollars have a real USD value.
When someone pays for something with USD’s converted to L$ and that the item they bought just gets deleted by the seller of the item….that sounds like stealing to me.
Amaretto’s costumer support really sucks.
They seem to forget that their costumers are the ones paying their wages irl.
And the word spread fast when a company has a bad costumer service..
Bad costumer service is also a sign of very unexpierenced unproffesional people trying to run a business.
Money greed got to their head losing all respect for the people who are filling their wallets.
When you run a business it’s important to please your costumers…and even when they do not agree, you should never tell them to shut up…. but to calm them down and talk about the issue why they are not happy with the product and how to resolve the problem.
July 15, 2011 at 6:45 pm
And notice how the CSR’s , chatmoderators and the ass kissers are somehow linked together in…business.
And notice how the ass kissers are the ones that are REALLY lucky with their bundle drops.
While other have to wait for months for their starters to drop something decent.
And the really unlucky ones never get anything decent..
Why else does amaretto have soo many asskissers compared to other breedables?
Join any other breedable group and notice the diffirence in maturity in the chat.
Amaretto chat is full of asskissers chatting away all day…
July 16, 2011 at 8:55 am
” TEAM PaⓁLч (laya.felisimo): it’s not dead Dae, far from … it’s just a load of people come in here crying cos they’re fed up of getting nothing and leaving horses (like, go already if that’s how you feel, why come into chat?) whipping up hysteria and then it takes someone to say that you’ve had an idiot selling a 6T white clyde for 50L$ to top it off … lol ridiculous ”
Someone to add to the list.
She doesn’t seem to understand that not everyone is packing cash irl to spend on their virtual horses.
Nor is everyone as “lucky” as her to be unemployed and be online all day and chat away.
Some people got stuff to do irl and can’t be online all the time to advertice or look for costumers…
The days that you could pay tier and food with your sales are over.
Everyone is complaining about it…except the asskissers.
They have shit in their eyes from kissing so much ass.
And anyone who can pay their tier AND food EVERY MONTH with L$ that you did NOT buy with real cash…feel free to explain it.
Aspecialy solo breeders who do not have a virtual partner who pays their tier are having a hard time.
July 19, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Oh wow I remember Newfie and Rider. Newfie was the worsttttt. He always had to have the best and his horses never ever had any issues. Anyone who spoke the truth he would attack. I just recently looked at his profile again, and he’s in the beta testing group. It’s as if the people with Amaretto get the best.. and the paying customers get sh*t on. Also reply to Just some guy and why there are now lots of rares, it is because Amaretto is trying to keep more people with them by putting out more rares. That is why you have been seeing the rares and new holidays everywhere. You might know me from chat maybe, as the one who was always blunt and speaking the truth. Haha people hated me so much. I just saw it how it was.. and was not afraid to say anything. I called the ass kissers “stop ass kissing, you wont get a free horse from them like this.” Just cuz it was if the ass kissers were trying to win them over and get free stuff. What you wrote is HILARIOUS. It is SO right. I love it. & I love you. Whoever you are. You are my hero. This website has me geekin. It’s sad though.. I think anyone who “speaks up” gets banned now, probably thinking it’s you. Not saying you are doing anything wrong, just that Amaretto are just asses. They should be making jackasses, not horses. Especially when the 2.0s look like a jackasses ass.
September 6, 2011 at 12:56 pm
@ Sativa: I still check this site, thank for the posts. I still find it hard to know that amaretto is getting away with ripping people off and comiting internet crime. Can anyone else please help me keep updated on here? I enjoyed knowing they were in real life messing with Ozimals table paperwork at the meeting and were caught on security doing it. I hope this proof of what they did on tape was information sent to the ongoing court case. I still have hopes that Ozimals can get some justice, no matter what they do they can not overcome the fact that they are using a stolen idea, stolen scripts. I hope justice will be served on them for internet theft too. But what bothers me the most is that they have had quite a bit of success but still find it necessary to walk the edge of the law and act like they are above dealing fairly in their business practices. Everyone spending money on their products are supporting some very creepy people who have hurt many and don’t care.
September 10, 2011 at 11:32 pm