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It’s Official, you know like, we may need to change this. 1-06-11

Well it is “Official”. Amaretto has come out and made a statement about this blog and the information in it. Just for safe keeping we have taken a screen shot of the Amaretto website showing what it “actually” says at the time of this post. We have a strange suspicion things are about to change with it. See what you need to ask yourselves now is… Was Myslhorses.com hacked? If it was hacked where is the notice to its customers that says they had a security breech? We are users of that very website and never received such a notice. Jaymee Caproni in Amaretto group chat makes this statement in regards to the hacking of Myslhorses.com.
 
[19:55]  Jaymee Carami (jaymee.caproni): MySLHorses users were informed of the hack and recieved a free month for their problems, if you DID NOT have myslhorses, you were not effected by the hack
 
Exactly how were the users effected? What exactly was compromised in this so called hacking? Why were the users not informed of any of this till now? This has been almost two full months since this happened. Why does it take in the words of Dakota Delicios “bullshit” blog to expose this to the users?
 
Well we can tell you why. The myslhorses.com website was never hacked, and you, Amaretto know it. You just threw Calista and Nz under the bus for your own protection. Why exactly would you claim the website was hacked when you know that’s not true? We know in a day or so you will need to fix up the Amaretto website so it will not say that the myslhorses.com website was hacked. Quite honestly you should, and you owe a huge public apology to Calista, NZ, all thier staff that work very hard on that site, and lets not forget the customers that support your product and believed this excuse you made. The question now is will you? 

Here is a excerpt from the myslhorses group chat. Apparently they were unaware they were hacked at anytime. Seems to us Amaretto is yet again fabricating things to their own benefit.

[22:14]  Storm Munforth: hi
[22:14]  Laya Felisimo: hi storm, i have a problem
[22:14]  Sylvana Torres: Storm:)
[22:14]  Laya Felisimo: did you see my earlier post ?
[22:14]  Storm Munforth: no
[22:15]  Laya Felisimo: ok, let me repost, if you’d be so kind

[22:15]  Storm Munforth: hi Sylvana

[22:03]  Laya Felisimo: Hi all, as a concerned customer and because i’ve been effectively told to shut up in another chat group about this – i thought i’d come and ask in the appropriate channel. Having read a response to an allegation about amaretto cheating, it claims that the myslhorses.com site was hacked. Why were we not informed of this ? Why were we not warned of this ? Why were we not advised that our accounts had been compromised ? Why were we not advised as a result, to change passwords and email addresses ? Yes we were given notification of a database error/failiure and compensated with a months free subscription, but why were the issues i am questioning, not addressed ? Could someone please explain ? Thanks
[22:16]  Storm Munforth: I don’t have an answer.
[22:17]  Laya Felisimo: really ?
[22:17]  Storm Munforth: This is the first time I am seeing all of this.
[22:17]  Laya Felisimo: really ? so you were not informed of the hack either ?
[22:17]  Sylvana Torres: but..you are a csr for a long time, Storm?
[22:17]  Laya Felisimo: interesting that
[22:17]  Storm Munforth: I know about the issue that prompted the month free.
[22:17]  Laya Felisimo: myslhorses own staff not informed of a security risk
[22:18]  Laya Felisimo: so you know about the hack then storm ?
[22:18]  Storm Munforth: if there was a security risk I would have been notified
[22:18]  Storm Munforth: let me get the note on the site
[22:18]  Laya Felisimo: but amaretto and calista are claiming that myslhorses was hacked
[22:18]  Sylvana Torres: but hacking is a security risk, or? I mean.. mhmm.

[22:18]  Storm Munforth: yes
 
Jaysin states this in the post on Amarettos main website…
  “These are our facts, the honest truth, and we believe that everyone will have the understanding to not persecute whoever wrote that blog post, as it was just a misunderstanding of a server glitch/error from the attack on the myslhorses database, that was blown up way out of proportion.”
 
Our facts? Honest truth? Attack on myslhorses database? We have a feeling you will be eating them words soon. Either way thank you for asking the community to not persecute us. That was touching.

 Here is the actual screenshot of the post by Jaysin Cooperstone on Amarettobreedables.com. We all know this won’t be the one that will be there in a day or so.

Real or Photo Shop? 1-05-11

Now for the qestion everyone is asking. “Are these pictures real or photo shoped?” The are 100% real! There has been no altering of the images of any kind. Aside from the first picture to add the horses stats from myslhorses.com so you could see all in one picture, all pictures are actual screen shots of the events. The owner of Myslhorses.com said in chat on Jan. 04 the folowing statement in refrence to this blog.

[02:27]  Calista Janus: it was an error in myslhorses, that happened the day we had db crash, everyone that day had problems and got a free month, it happened once and has not happened again, thats why the stats were all messed up, and the coders explained that the owner of the white arab at that time

There you go, right from the horses mouth. She is admitting that the stats were in fact messed up. The questions we have though is this. Why were the stats messed up on just one horse in the pedigree, while all other horses are assumed correct? Why were the stats messed up on the pedigree days before the db crash? Why were the stats messed up after the crash and the corrected db problem? Why were the stats altered a total of three times? How many other instances of this occurred on your website? How come this is the only one that just so happens to come back to a alt of a Amaretto CSR being the seller of the horse? How come the real owner of the mystery horse is Jaymee Caproni, yet the seller of the baby is Kade Zuta, who happens to be Richie Carami’s alt? Why do they feel the need to sell their horses on alts when they have the permission to sell them on their main avatars? Why would they rent a storefront in Josaphine Cooperstone’s breedable market sim to do all this? Why……why don’t you ask yourself, what the hell you are doing with these people?

Tempers Flare in Group Chat 1-05-11

Looks like some tempers flared early in the morning in the Amaretto Breedables Group chat. It would also appear that later in the day, there was some comments left on the Amaretto website forums, that caused them to remove all access from their users to the forums. They would like you to think they have their forums down for maintenance. We shall see if the post from early Jan. 4th are left intact or not once they restore their forums back to the users.
Below are some excerpts from the early morning Group Chat. It amazes us that Amaretto continues to allow its CSR’s to talk like drunken sailors and belittle the very customers they are there to help. No matter how tired or upset you are as a representative of a company, it is in the best interest of the company you hold your composure. As you can see here Dakota Delicioso just can not seem to get a grip on her emotions. However this is nothing new for her she does always seem to come into group chat and fly off the handle.
 
[02:14]  Dakota Delicioso: believe what you choose too i’m here to tell you that whole blog post is nothing but bullshit
[02:16]  Dakota Delicioso: today has been onegiant conspiracy theory in this group omg is it a full moon
[02:16]  Dakota Delicioso: i’m Rick James B**tch
[02:17]  Dakota Delicioso: yea all the CSR’s who have been on working all day and now its 5am in the morning and we’re frankily tired of hearing all these conspiracies
[02:18]  Dakota Delicioso: we welcome construction suggestions in the ticket system *bats eyes*
[02:20]  Dakota Delicioso: back to work got horses to fix for people who appreciate it 🙂 have a nice day
[02:20]  Dakota Delicioso: cause i’m sick of this crap

 
Dakota calls this blog posting “nothing but bullshit”. Well of course to you it is bullshit, but to your customers it is interesting information. Especially interesting to your customers that have purchased horses from Kade Zuta/Richie Carami. Most people would say that conspiracy theorists are just nuts, as well as the well known urban legend of the full moon making people have odd behaviors. So what you are saying is that everyone of your customers that just have some questions throughout the day pertaining to the server being down and problems with the very product you are here to support, are nothing more then just lunatics. That’s nice, we would expect nothing less from you Dakota. Rick James has been dead for a while now, and we know that is just a funny comment and all. But seriously coming from you, in group chat, is that really necessary? But hey if you would like to be a womanizing, one hit wonder musician, drug addict, then so be it. That’s your prerogative.
You say and we quote “we welcome construction suggestions in the ticket system”. We are sure what you meant was you welcome “constructive” suggestions, but since you say “construction”, we would like you to stop pretending to perform “construction” on your forums and just leave them open so your customers can post again. Besides what is so bad with people offering constructive suggestions in open chat? Oh yea we know, you guys cant just delete them like you can a ticket. If you are so “sick of this crap” why don’t you do everyone including the owners of Amaretto a favor and just quit. You could always go back to doing a 100 bunny auctions a week, smoking your cigarettes and sounding like the stereotypical 65 year old waitress at Waffle House, that has a smoke in her hand while she is stuffing her face with double bacon, egg, and cheese, with extra mayo, sandwich.
 
The CSR’s decided they wanted to make it very clear that they use their main accounts to sell their horses. We never understood why they would be allowed to do this, but Amaretto in their infinite, ethical wisdom decided that they would allow this practice. Either way you will notice the one CSR, although online and being vocal in chat decided he would not partake in claiming he uses his main to sell horses. It is possible though that is was typing his almost legible post that we will get to in a moment. Or maybe he really does have a conscience and would not say he uses his main account to sell horses cause he can’t actually say that.
 
[02:23]  Calista Janus: i use my main.. not that i have much time for my horses that i used to, my only alt you will find it my rl /sl partner who is at the same address and anyone is welcome to investigate my horses at any time
[02:25]  Calista Janus: i have no charmed (except for one i bought), no special horses, many of you have better horses than I have, we all still online in the middle of the night doing tickets
[02:21]  Dakota Delicioso: the lm’s tomy shops are in my profile please don’t buy from me
[02:21]  Avalon Carami (avalon.crystal): I use my main to sell my horses!
[02:21]  Jaymee Carami (jaymee.caproni): Amaretto staff own horses… sell horses… on the main avatars
[02:21]  Tmzasz Luminos: no we use our mains when selling horses when we have the time to breed our horses between tickets

 
Calista and Tmzasz, neither of you were brought up in the whole posting about using alts to sell horses. Thank you for the clarification though. Dakota why say the LM’s to your shops are in your profile if you are going to follow it up with telling people not to buy from you? Oh wait we know, you were really just advertising that you have horses for sale and for everyone to look in your profile for the locations. Wow aren’t you the one that comes into chat all the time and yells at people for advertising?  Its ok we all know that you live by the golden rule of “do as i say not as i do”. Avalon, you were also not brought up in the blog posting however you are also the avatar Kaydence Zuta, daughter to Kade Zuta and Kaelyn Zuta, who is the Alt of Jaymee Caproni. But that really is a whole other story huh?
 
On the subject of “create and recreate”.  Seems some of the CSR’s wanted to explain what they can and can not do. Whatever you would like to call it, being able to “recreate” and still able to sell horses leaves open so many loop holes, it would be absurd to allow a CSR to own horses, for sale. There is so many speculations to that, we just can’t understand why you would even want your company to be questioned ethically about it. This could have been avoided had Amaretto just not allowed any member of the team to own horses.
 
[02:22]  Jaymee Carami (jaymee.caproni): csr’s can not create horse… we REcreate horses… that have uuid… that we work on everyday to fix for yall… csr’s DO NOT have access to the server to change or alter anything
[02:30]  Richie Carami: ok get this and get this once we cannot create any horse we want you all do not want to understand that cause some want drama and ill say this once to i do fix bundles to the one that wants to sit here and acuse me of not fixing them and if you all want to belive stuff go ahead just shows how much people belive crap is what i see
[02:31]  Richie Carami: we dont have acess to the data base to do that
[02:31]  Richie Carami: so you might wanna stop spreading rumors
[02:31]  Richie Carami: im sick of people who live for drama personaly
[02:32]  Richie Carami: and to those of you who do and just wanna attack us then go ahead

So let us get this story straight. You say, and we quote “csr’s DO NOT have access to the server to change or alter anything”. This can not possibly be a true statement. You would need access to the database to recreate a lost horse, that would be is a user submits a ticket about no longer having a horse in their possession. When these horses are “stolen” at auctions by people buying them for $10L you would need access to the data base to now locate that horse to remove it from the owner, to return it back to the rightful owner. As far as “change and alter”, well you do in fact do that too. When a Male and Female horse are sent in due to a BAD_BUNDLE and you reset their fervor, are you not in fact changing and altering them?

How old is that horsie in the window? 1-04-11

What you are about to read, and see pictures of, is an event that took place back in November of 2010. It takes place over the course of three days. The story goes, that a breeder purchased a horse from another breeder, after the seller had logged into Second Life and promptly contacted this person about selling a requested type of horse. The seller of the horse has and may still have a storefront in the Amaretto breedables market owned by Josaphine Cooperstone.

What would seem like a very normal horse purchase soon became a unveiling of what goes on behind the scenes of Amaretto Breedables. This evidence is being presented for you to make your own judgments. The information here has been shared throughout the horse breeding community for some time now, and has been mentioned in the Amaretto Breedables group chat as well as circulated around in IM’s and on notecards. Here you will see actual screen shots taken during the whole event, along with explanations of each. Avatar names and Alts will be revealed here.

 This first picture shows a IM window along with a image embedded in it that is taken from Myslhorses.com. It shows information for a horse named Gloomy Snow Princess. The IM window is what is chatted to you in response to you clicking on the horse and requesting its parents. The embedded image inside the IM window is a snapshot of its stats from Myslhorses.com. So far this all looks great. At the time of this purchase this was a much desired horse that sold in the $40,000L+ range. What is important about this picture is the Mother. You will see in following pictures why this becomes important.

 Ok so, the buyer of this horse was contacted by a avatar named Kade Zuta, after a request for a White Arabian. The breeder went and met Kade Zuta and purchased the horse now known as “Gloomy Snow Princess”. As you see in the picture below, at this time in mid November this was a very decent horse from equally great parents.

Now once this breeder takes the new horse home and goes to record all its data for safe keeping, it is noticed that looking on the Myslhorses.com website that the mother has no age nor does she have any parents. You can clearly see this screenshot below taken at that time. This was late at night and was thought to just be a mistake and nothing really seemed to be all that wrong. The breeder still did want to record the data but figured to wait till the following morning to see if all info would be online.

The next morning, the breeder is once again going to record the data for safe keeping and opens up the Myslhorses.com website for the pedigree for the horse. You will now see in this screenshot some things have now changed. First, the mother now has a new name. Her name yesterday was “Phenomena” but now its “Jaymee”.  Ok so a new name isn’t really a big deal, people change the names of horses from time to time. Second you will see that the eyes of the mother are now changed from “fire elemental” to “rainbow”. Say what? How would this happen you ask? Well your guess is as good as ours. None the less there it is for you to see. Third, the mother now has an age. Yes you are reading that right, the age says the horse is now 12,471 days old. Just for the record that just over 34 years old, the internet wasn’t even available for public use back then. She still has no parents.

Ok, seems there is something “ahoof” going on around here now, huh? Well you are right there sure is. But this is where it all gets very interesting. See, now this breeder is feeling a little bit scammed. They are worried they may now have some type of defective horse. Worse yet they may have a horse that has been fabricated by Amaretto. Yes there has been up to this point rumors of favoritism and Amaretto staff using Alts to sell their horses. So this breeder is wondering if they may have just stumbled onto that very proof. None the less this breeder is a trusting person and they decide to wait till one of their friends is online to show them this information they have found. In the mean time, the breeder continues on with their day of looking to buy other horses. So they venture off into the seemingly never ending sims full of Amaretto horses for sale.

After some searching this breeder comes across a perfect horse for sale. Perfect why? Well this horse is a female White Arabian, but wait she is pregnant, and it would seem her mate is standing right next to her. He is also a White Arabian, but he has “Fire Elemental” eyes and a Long mane. Ok so this breeder purchases the pregnant female in the hopes that the baby it has turns out to also have the fire elemental eyes and turns out to be a male. This would be a perfect mate for the horse that was purchased from Kade Zuta the day before. This breeder takes the horse home and shortly there after the original owner contacts them. This wasn’t a “Hey Thank You” contact though. This was a “That horse wasn’t for sale” contact. The original owner was very adamant on getting the pregnant female back. Going as far as saying that she would contact Amaretto and tell them the horse was stolen. Basically what she would attempt to do is say that the horse was purchased for $10L. Everyone knows that the default setting for placing a item for sale in Second Life is $10L. Amaretto has been known to return horses back to original owners when horses are purchased for $10L say at auctions when the seller is setting the price and a thief comes in during the moment they begin to edit the price. Either way this horse was purchased for well over $30,000L and there was transaction proof, so it seems this idea would not work for the original owner and they backed off. Shortly there after the female had her baby. This picture below shows the pedigree for the baby, the mother is the horse that was purchased pregnant. Ok so your asking what the hell this has to do with the whole story? Well look at the picture, you will see that the Sire named ~ FIRE ON ICE~ has the very same mother as the horse that was purchased the day before from Kade Zuta. Coincidence? Nope there is no such thing. Further pictures will reveal why. But for now look at this picture.

So now that the breeder has seen that this pregnant horse has ties back to Kade Zuta’s horses, they get on a Alt account and go back to the sim that the pregnant horse was purchased from. This sim is run by one person and only her horses are sold there, at least at the time all this was happening. The owner of this sales yard is Despina Boucher, and she is the same person that owned the pregnant horse originally. The breeder is now in snooping mode, clicking on horses. After a little bit they come across a horse that also has ties back to the horses that Kade Zuta has. However the owner of this horse is not Despina Boucher. The owner of this horse is Risque Davi. What’s her connection you ask? Well she keeps horses for sale in the very same space as Kade Zuta, at Josaphine Cooperstone’s breedable market sim. By space we don’t mean they are just only on the same sim, what we mean is they share the very same building. You will see in the picture below that the Dam’s mother is the very same mother to both “Gloomy Snow Princess” and “~FIRE ON ICE~”. What does all this mean? Well keep reading you will learn all the connections soon.

Ok now, on to the cover up. What cover up? Well that’s coming don’t worry. We promise there really is a reason for all this. Lets just look back at what has been said and shown so far and connect some dots. We have a horse that is purchased from Kade Zuta. This horse has a parent that seems to first have Fire elemental eyes and no age. With in a 12 hour time frame that horse has now changed names, changed its eye type to Rainbow, and has become 12,471 days old. She still has no parents. Later in the day its found that the very same horse is parent to two other horses on Despina Bouchers sim. One horse she owned and one owned by Risque Davi. Despina was very threatening in response of the sale of the pregnant horse going so far as to want to fabricate a story to Amaretto to have the horse returned. Risque Davi has a horse on Despina Bouchers private sim, and she also shares space with Kade Zuta for selling horses on  Josaphine Cooperstone’s breedable market sim. For now what we have at the very least is three people that do business with each other. Or do we?

What you will now see in the next couple pictures is the attempt to cover up what apparently is something that Amaretto did not want anyone to see. Kade Zuta’s main avatar will be revealed. The true owner of the mystery horse will be brought out of her hiding, as well as a list of her known Alts, and trust us that will only lead to more speculation. The link between Despina Boucher and these people, and why the rumors of her having all these amazing horses well before anyone else is really true.

Remember that friend the breeder was waiting for to come online to see all this information? Well they came online looked it all over, went and looked at all the horses, sales locations, profiles, and RedZone Alt list. Apparently this person was able to determine a few connections to all the people involved. This person apparently knew someone with in the Amaretto organization, and presented all the collected information to them. What Amaretto did next is the most disturbing of this whole situation. They covered it up. However just like everything else, they were not very good at it. So in this first picture you will see that Amaretto has attempted to make some changes to the information of the mystery horse. Look at the age of the Dam on the horse now. First it was 12,471 days old, now its been changed to 50 days. Look at the top of the picture too. You will notice that there is many pedigree pages open. This was done to capture in real time changes that were being done to the pedigree by moving to a different page and refreshing it. You will see though in this picture only one change has been made and its the age.

Ok so what gives? Is this horse 12,471 days old or 50 days old? What about parents? She is a White Arabian, she needs to have parents because there is no way she can be a starter horse right? Well it took Amaretto another 20 minutes to make the pedigree look right. However in the meantime apparently Kade Zuta felt the need to hide a few more things. Wait what? Why would he need to hide more things? How would he even know any of these corrections were taking place? Well here it comes. Kade Zuta is really Richie Carami. Yes the very same Richie Carami that is a CSR for Amaretto, and partnered to Jaymee Caproni also a CSR for Amaretto. Jaymee Caproni is also the real life sister to Josaphine Cooperstone. Should you be able to bring up Jaymee Caproni’s list of known Alts you will get these names, JJ Cerna, Josaphine Cooperstone, Jaysin Cooperstone, Ancient Biscuit, Kaye Koolhoven, Richie Carami. The mystery horse is really owned by Jaymee Caproni. Whoaaaaa slow down what? Yes go back and read it over… Got it now? See that connection? Wait there is more. Kade Zuta logged into Second Life while the server was taken down to make the final corrections and went to his sales yard on Josaphine Cooperstone’s breedable market sim. While he was there he was met by Despina Boucher, and the horse’s that were in his sales yard were transfered over to Despina. Ok whew, Kade erm Richie is safe now. He would almost certainly have had moved over some more questionable horses. All is good now, yes even the Mystery horse is now good. Take a look at the picture below. You will now see that the horse now has her name back to “Phenomena”, she has her eyes back to “Fire Elemental”, she has had her age changed now for the third time to 42 days old, and last but not least she finaly has some parents.

So what have we learned here? Well, it would seem that the rumors are true about Amaretto staff using Alts to sell horses. They do seem to have at the very least a couple people close to them they feel they can share these horses with. It would also seem thet the CSR’s are able to create horses at will. They are also able to make changes on thier server to hide these horses into the population. Since this all happened back in November the information has been shared with a small group of breeders. Of course through them the information leaked out to a wider amount of people. We have seen transcripts of personal IM’s where the information has been shared. We have seen copies of notecards that some of this information has been posted onto. We have also seen it mentioned in the Amaretto Breedables  group chat. Until now it has not been a very big secret, but now its all in one page for all to see and make thier own judgment call on. Whether you believe it or not is up to you. The people that were involved know its true though.