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The Truth About Amaretto, (notecard)

 Well folks today I heard about a notecard being passed around called (The Truth About Amaretto) created by:freehorsey96 (freehorsey96). This avatar was created 5/15/2011. After some digging around I was able to obtain a copy of this notecard. I open it and the first thing I see is this blog address at the top. Although I appreciate the publicity towards this blog, the truth is I did not write this notecard. I have not collected any of this data or provided any of the information in the notecard. Furthermore I don’t endorse the information in this notecard.

I promise I can cause my own problems with Amaretto Breedables LLC. I don’t require any help. I will never pass any information that I have created or researched in regards to Amaretto Breedables LLC. to anyone inside Second Life. All my information will be presented here on this blog. I would also hope that the people that know me as well as the people that follow my blog postings can see this notecard was not created by me. Recently I have made a avatar in Second Life named AmarettoCheats Resident.

 However I will comment on some of the information that is contained in the notecard. I will agree that it is “the mother of all scams”. There is no doubt Amaretto Breedables is a very lucrative venture for the creators. I am not jealous or hate them in any way for creating a profitable product in Second Life. To be perfectly honest, I will applaud them for doing so. There is many people in Second Life and for that matter the whole world that would like to make a product that becomes popular and makes them a boat load of money. To that I say congratulations for doing so. My problem with Amaretto, and always has been, is their shady activity, and the way they treat people. Sure there has always been the thought of this product being stolen from another creator. That however is not for me or anyone but the courts to decide. Myself as with everyone out there, has the option to look at the case documents on the many websites that provide this information for a fee. I have as well as many others looked at the documents provided by Amaretto and Ozimals on their websites, but at least in my case I was willing to purchase the documents available on the websites to see the full content and context of the case. Believe me or not, but should you read ALL the documents, Im sure many of you would have a different opinion of Amaretto, then the “oh so nice people” some think they are. Go read the documents, they are a good read.

 I have never data mined anyone, not in Second Life or in the real world. I have many other issues to deal with then to set up a program to watch what these people do, and how much money they make. For the record though, I believe these numbers are far from the truth. There is no doubt in my mind they are making far more money then what the notecard reported. Quite frankly they need to be making more money then this because their attorneys are taking it as fast as they make it.

 Now as far as the server going down. There is no doubt all this is very frustrating, both for the customers and of course for Amaretto themselves. They and only them know the real truth behind all the server issues. I would bet they are not being completely honest with their customers about what is really going on. I could write ten pages of information on it and would loose 99.9% of you with all the geek stuff in the first paragraph, so really what’s the point. I personally do not believe they are stealing your best horses for themselves. Why would they? They can create anything they want, whenever they want. But truth be told if they have created the backend code for these horses correctly then even they cant just create whatever they want. They do know the code though and they could at the least increase the probability of the outcome of a pairing. That is why I have always been against the members of the Amaretto team owning and selling horses on the secondary market. Now some will say, “hey these comments go against what you first reported on this blog”. Actually in a way it does. However that was then this is now. I still believe with 100% certainty that members of the team were falsifying the information of some horses they owned in the beginning. I believe though these issues were adjusted so it could not be done any longer, or shall I say, I hope they have been.

 Amaretto does have the sims reported in the notecard. You need not go to the sims to see the horses on them. Open the map and zoom in as far as you can. You can see loads of horses on the sims. Because they are large and made of prims they are easy to see. No you cant see stats but yes you can see the large amount of horses they have. So what though, they have made it quite clear they will allow their CSR’s to own and sell horses, no matter how ethically challenged it is, they are going to continue to do it cause they feel it is ok.

 Many of you love this blog and the information I provide. There is many more that hate what I have done here, and refuse to take it seriously at all. Ultimately it is your choice what to believe. Should I be on the outside looking in though I would at the very least file this blog and the information contained in it into the “I have read it and will watch for the information to present itself to me category”. Thing is, many people that hated on this blog in the beginning are now people that will say they wish they would have listened back then. Fact of the matter is, I am not getting soft on Amaretto, quite honestly I despise them more now then I ever have. They have cost me a substantial amount of money, and I’m not thrilled about it. The only comfort in all of it for me is that, their attorneys are taking a large portion of their earnings, and they are to dumb to see they are getting screwed over. Worse part though is, all their customers are paying for it, in more ways then one, and most are oblivious to the facts.

 So with that said, I would like to reiterate on some things. I did not write the notecard. I am not nor ever have griefed any Amaretto store or sim. I would also never write and pass out a notecard in Second Life and I sure as hell would never grief their or anyone else’s stores or sims. What I do, I do right here for all to see.


Waves a big hello to Amaretto Owners and staff

Hi Amaretto team. You all do know I can see you guys visiting here every single day right? Yes, everyday through our recent quarrel, up to and including today you all, or at least someone with in your team visits this site here and leaves a fingerprint. As of this writing you have visited 3 times just today, maybe more but 3 times are provable. Tell me, are you curious if I will post anything that recently happened between us? Maybe you are waiting to see if like 100’s of other blogs out there, that I will discuss or post documents that relate to the lawsuit. No, I wont do that, but rest assure there is many people that know, and they know the truth. They are not blinded by your bullshit attempts of using charity organizations to make you look good. You are not the people donating, it is your customers that are opening up their wallets and doing all the giving. You just sit back and try to take all the credit for it. Remember, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cant fool all of the people all of the time.

But, since I have your attention. How long do you really think you can keep up this farce about your website? What about this need for a new server due to this “phenomenal growth” you claim to have had. Maybe it is true that you do need a better server, hell even I would agree with that, but really it isn’t from the growth, it is more from your poor lack of planning and getting with the right server company to begin with, but then again you have made that mistake more then a couple times already. Come on now, the website down, that’s a load of crap and you know it. You all are using it everyday and have been using it since the day it went down. People do know that there is no need to pull a website down to rebuild it. So really why is it down? What exactly are you hiding, and from who?

Urgent News 4-1-11**UPDATED** 4-2-11

We just receive information from a inside source, that on Monday April 4th 2011, all Amaretto Breedables products will be removed from the Second Life grid due to multiple recent DMCA filings. Although at the moment we can not confirm this information with 100% accuracy, we do feel that our source of the information has nothing to benefit from releasing the information to us. The story that has been told to us is that, five new DMCA’s have been filed in the last two days indicating that Amaretto Breedables has engaged in Intellectual Property theft. Due to allegations of this in the past, Linden Lab feels it is in their best interest to remove all of Amaretto Breedables content until the DMCA’s can be resolved between the concerned parties.

 We will keep you posted on any further information about this subject we may receive.

***UPDATE***  April Fools!!!

Come on guys, this post was so blatantly filled with clues that is was a April Fools joke. Besides just like the rest of you, we would be thoroughly upset if Linden took our horses from us too. Sorry if anyone took it seriously. Just like many websites on the internet, we chose to engage in a little prank ourselves.

 We are a bit upset that still so many people do not understand the court documents pertaining to Amaretto vs. Ozimals. Tonight in group chat the subject was brought up many times. Time and time again people claimed in chat that Amaretto “won” the court case. This is completely untrue. No one has won anything yet. Ozimals was not ordered by any court to not file any more DMCA’s. Ozimals agreed NOT to file anymore DMCA’s while the case is still in litigation. This is a common practice when it comes to the DMCA process, it is not in any way shape or form a win for Amaretto. Even though with their press release on the subject they would have you believe it is. Please people read the documents. Should you feel the need to talk about them in open public, then at the very least understand what they mean. Understand that Linden Lab is a nonparty to the suit and therefore are not bound by the TRO that Amaretto paid $25,000 USD to obtain. That TRO actually challenges Linden Lab 1st Amendment rights, and they were not to happy about that. They even say so with the “opposition to motion for preliminary injunction” that they filed.

“Dakota Delicioso: i’d really hope nobody read that website anymore ….ther is plenty of stuff to read on the Amaretto sites :)”

Well Dakota apparently people do read this site. Besides you guys have deleted all the good information off your site. Now people are scared to post on it for fear they will have all their horses stolen by Amaretto.

Do as we say, Not as we do pt3 4-1-11

Waves to Josaphine and the rest of the motley crew over there at Amaretto. Seems you are in fact reading this blog. At approximately 12:15 am SL time April 1st you finally decided to grow a conscience and remove all the negative post including yours from the thread in the forums we have posted the pictures to. Amazingly at the exact time you were doing this your always the one with words CSR Richie Carami was in group chat being his usually asinine self threatening a customer, claiming he is perfect, and he will remove post only if he feels like it. Why you as  company let this fool have any chat privileges is beyond any comprehension. But hey he’s your biggest source of entertainment for all of us so by all means leave him be the tool he is.

 At any rate thank you for doing the right thing and removing the bashing post in the forum. Sure do hope you followed through with your rules and took that persons chat, forums, and support rights away.

Do as we say, Not as we do. pt2 3-31-11

Well now,it has become abundantly clear that as long as you are on the side of Amaretto and are trash talking other customers in group chat and the forums, you post will remain and there will be absolutely no action taken against you. As you can see here in the below picture where Spyder ask about the thread we have posted about in the Q&A section that Josaphine made this quote:

 “I have cleaned up that topic, to be fair, and the topic was locked already.

 So it would appear that yes she feels that it has been cleaned up enough and that she feels that the customer bashing is quite fair. We are starting to question if Josaphine is a woman or not, cause she has some GIGANTIC FRIGGEN BALLS.

Do as we say, Not as we do. 3-30-11

Well as you all know Amaretto has come out with some new rules for all their groups and their forums. The post along with the rules can be found here . Please pay close attention to this quote from the blog post.

 “With that being said, Amaretto has pride in it’s company and will no longer allow our groups and forums to become a breeding ground for downing, trash talking, or plain out slandering of Amaretto, the individuals who work for Amaretto or Amaretto customers. Constructive criticism is ALWAYS accepted when offered with concern or care but, a line has to be drawn somewhere. If anyone is found in the groups, forums, or support system, trashing talking Amaretto as a company, the individuals that work for Amaretto, or Amaretto customers, it will not be tolerated. The person/persons found to be doing these such actions can and will get their rights to all groups, forums, and the ticket support system revoked, as we deem necessary to stop the issues. “

  Apparently Josaphine, the owner of Amaretto can not comprehend these rules. Josaphine has decided to not only allow a member of the community to post two separate post in the forum “trash talking” and “plain out slandering” (BTW its called libel) another member of the community, but in her infinite wisdom she also decided to make two post of her own then lock the thread. Now through out the day there was at the least three post from other members deleted from this forum thread and although we don’t believe in censorship, it is Amaretto forums and they feel that negative postings against them will not be tolerated and will be deleted. However should a person make a negative post against another member of the community, then that is acceptable and will remain.

 This is quite the pathetic turn of events from a person that is nominated for Avatar of the year. Wouldn’t be wise to just make no comment at all and remove the post of the person that is trash talking another member of the community? Should they not have their chat rights as well as their support rights removed. No we guess not. Seems as though you actually condone what this person has said and by leaving the post remaining on the forums as well as locking the thread, it only goes to prove that you live by only one rule.

Do as we say, not as we do.

 Below is the screen shot of the entire thread. Maybe after reading this Amaretto will do the right thing and remove the whole thing. “was never hacked” 1-09-11

 Well it has been a very busy week for the Amaretto team, with the consistent server issues, BAD_BUNDLES, accusations of cheating, negotiations with Ozimals, returning their forums back, and dealing with the constant bickering in the group chat. Through all this though Jaysin Cooperstone found the time to make a “Official” post to the website and to the community through the group notices in regards to this websites findings. We quickly responded to that response, stating that the claim of being “hacked” was not true. Although many felt that Amaretto’s claim was a perfect explanation for all the information we provided, we begged to differ. We claimed that shortly Jaysin would need to retract his claim of the “hacking”, and although Jaysin or anyone from Amaretto has yet to do so, NZ Shepherd a Owner of did create a blog to make a statement on. That can be found here -> . It would behoove Amaretto to retract their claim of the hacking, a simple copy and paste from NZ Shepherds blog post is truly unacceptable. Whatever the case may be, it was Jaysin Cooperstone that told all of the customers this quote, “These are our facts, the honest truth”. Apparently just as we claimed, these were not the “facts” or “the honest truth”. Below we would like to post some excerpts of the blog post from NZ Shepherd, We would like to comment on, and ask a few questions about them.
“In mid November 2010 many horse records disappeared and/or got messed up from one of our database tables. Our initial investigation was centered around the possibility of our website being compromised. After investigations, we couldn’t find any evidence of this and found an error in the sql server coding made during a coding update that caused this problem. We had initially spoken to Amaretto and told them that we believe we could have been hacked as we could not see anything in our coding that could have caused this. As it turned out, we were never hacked, it was a coding error as said above. Due to miscommunication this didn’t get conveyed back to Amaretto.
What had been written in the official response in the Amaretto breedables blog (titled Offical response to AmarettoCheats) by Jason Cooperstone was correct, as far as he knew.
There is no deception or lies here and the issue should not be construed this way. We released a news article under our Site News on the 15th of November explaining this problem. The horse data, over time was updated and fixed, and the only loss was to notes, and allocations that our customers had made to put horses up for sale, or for stud, which was easily fixed by the customers putting those horses back up for sale or stud.  A free month was given to each current member’s account at that time, for the inconvenience this caused.”

 As you say, you had a error on the coding during a update, at first you thought there was a possibility that your website had been compromised and you informed Amaretto of this. You later determined that you were not hacked and it was just a error. The event that revealed all this information transpired on November 14th. You were contacted on the 15th, around 4pm SLT that there was some type of issue with a particular horse and its information on the website. At that time you had just recently sent out a notice that there had been a issue with the database and some hours later another post was made that customers would receive 1 month free service for their inconvenience. Later in the evening shortly before 11pm SLT you were shown not only the horse that led to all this information, but also seen for yourself all the information and the discrepancies on the website. After 40 minutes and a attempt to correct the information that only resulted in the Mystery horse having its age changed from 12,471 day to 50 days, Amaretto took their server offline for a reboot. Magically while this is happening Richie Carami’s alt Kade Zuta logs in to remove his horses from his storefront. Shortly there after the server reboot, all information on the pedigree appeared to be correct. Step forward 49 days on January 4th, and this website amarettocheats with all its information is posted to the web. January 5th Jaysin Cooperstone made a “official” response to the findings presented on this website, claiming that what he writes are “facts and honest truth”.

 What we are saying is, that after first telling Amaretto of the problem, then the information of the mystery horse being presented, that led to a sever reboot from Amaretto, then 49+ days later a website reveals the information surrounding the event, that resulted in a “Official” statement about the information being posted by Amaretto on their website.  Now you want to insult all of our intelligence that through all that time and many events where Amaretto and Myslhorses were in direct contact about this particular situation, that you can say this quote “What had been written in the official response in the Amaretto breedables blog (titled Offical response to AmarettoCheats) by Jason Cooperstone was correct, as far as he knew.”.  As far as he knew? Really?… Really? Was he living under a rock or something? Did he take 49+ days off from owning Amaretto, and come back to only make a “Official” statement before actually speaking to you on what had happened. We seriously doubt it.
“We do not store, or ever ask for email address. Our passwords are encrypted and totally locked down and were not compromised.”
We were never worried in the least about this. Why would we have been, after all the site was not hacked anyway.
“mySLhorses is a third party application, it is not run by Amaretto, and they have no access to the inner workings of the website, it is run on a separate server. As has already been stated on the Amaretto blog, we also provide a tool for the Amaretto staff, to help them handle their support tickets.”

Again, something we knew and really had no concern of.
“Calista Janus has been working with Amaretto, helping out with support tickets for only a few weeks. Calista & I have worked hard and long hours to provide a pedigree system to suit all, but we are not perfect, mistakes happen. The drama, nasty comments and behaviour of some people in IM’s, notecards and messages in group chat is sad to see. Calista is over 6 months pregnant RL and doesnt need any stress right now. We hope that this will be the end of this issue, and we wont be discussing it with anyone any further. It is time to move on.”

The service that provides, has surpassed what many thought it would be. The dedication you make to increasing its features proves that. We just like the majority of the users of the website have only praise for it, and are extremely happy to have that tool at our finger tips. The nasty comments and behavior towards you (myslhorses) is completely unwarranted and should not be happening. This has never been about, any of its owners, or employees. Surely the whole community would wish you all the best with your new child, as well as a safe pregnancy for Calista with as little stress as possible. However to have that mentioned in this statement was completely unnecessary. Following it up with saying this should be the end of the issue and for everyone to move on, is really just a attempt to shut this whole scandal down without really solving the issue.